Instant Terra Forum
		Instant Terra => Crash and bug reports => Topic started by: Danilo Nishimura on March 17, 2020, 03:15:00 PM
		
			
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				Hi there,
 
 I'm now working from home, and starting from this latest version, I'm having consistent crashes when maximizing the window. This wasn't happening when I used the software on my office computer, and wasn't happening on previous versions (standard, not pro or unlimited versions).
 
 Video: https://youtu.be/dJbqjMQJooU
 
 If you guys need anything to help determine the cause of the crash, I'm here to help.
 
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				Hi Danilo,
 
 It seems that it crashes when the 3D viewport becomes big. Maybe it could be related to your GPU.
 What GPU do you have?
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				It's a GTX 1080
 
 
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 System Information
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 Time of this report: 3/17/2020, 11:39:59
 Machine name: DANILO-PC
 Machine Id: {526B085B-874A-4545-BF22-8A7B393C7B7D}
 Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 18362) (18362.19h1_release.190318-1202)
 Language: Portuguese (Regional Setting: Portuguese)
 System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
 System Model: System Product Name
 BIOS: BIOS Date: 02/05/10 19:13:52 Ver: 08.00.10 (type: BIOS)
 Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
 Memory: 16384MB RAM
 Available OS Memory: 16290MB RAM
 Page File: 11444MB used, 5870MB available
 Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
 DirectX Version: DirectX 12
 DX Setup Parameters: Not found
 User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
 DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
 Miracast: Available, with HDCP
 Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
 DirectX Database Version: Unknown
 DxDiag Version: 10.00.18362.0387 64bit Unicode
 
 
 
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 Display Devices
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 Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080
 Manufacturer: NVIDIA
 Chip type: GeForce GTX 1080
 DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
 Device Type: Full Device (POST)
 Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1B80&SUBSYS_33671462&REV_A1
 Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
 Device Problem Code: No Problem
 Driver Problem Code: Unknown
 Display Memory: 16224 MB
 Dedicated Memory: 8079 MB
 Shared Memory: 8145 MB
 Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
 HDR Support: Not Supported
 Display Topology: Extend
 Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G22_NONE_P709
 Color Primaries: Red(0.650391,0.333008), Green(0.332031,0.623047), Blue(0.157227,0.052734), White Point(0.313477,0.329102)
 Display Luminance: Min Luminance = 0.500000, Max Luminance = 270.000000, MaxFullFrameLuminance = 270.000000
 Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
 Monitor Model: VS248
 Monitor Id: ACI2498
 Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
 Output Type: DVI
 Monitor Capabilities: HDR Not Supported
 Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_32BPP
 Advanced Color: Not Supported
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				I uninstalled, rebooted, and installed 1.10.2, and the issue is gone. I don't know exactly what fixed: could be the reboot, could be the uninstall.
			
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				So, it worked fine at first, but after using a few other softwares, it happened again. Rebooting the machine often temporarily fixes it.
 I'm watching system stats and processes trying to pin down what causes the crash.
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				The crash may be caused by a shortage of VRAM.
 
 Your log shows 16 GB of display memory: 8 GB of dedicated memory (i.e. DDR5 VRAM) and 8 GB of shared memory (i.e. a part of the main RAM that can be used by the GPU).
 But some graphics-related data can only be allocated in dedicated memory and not in shared memory.
 
 If you have a software that uses a lot of display memory, such as Unity or Unreal Engine, if this software uses, let's say, 60% of the display memory but this includes the entire dedicated memory, other applications that use the GPU such as Instant Terra may not be able to run.
 
 Do you have a way to track the amount of used dedicated memory?
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				So, it's been happpening quite often. After a while using Unity and consuming quite a lot of ram, I close it and open Instant Terra, and it always will crash after resizing the window. It never happens if I restart the machine and open it right away.
 
 I've double checked this time: both ram and vram are free for the app, and still it crashes on resize.
 
 (https://i.imgur.com/ngfVne4.png)